AND ANOTHER ROUND OF 20 PROOF FOR MY ATV...

[Tippy]

i did run AV gas once in my built VW and that thing could have run ten sec. at the speedway. in the three years i owed that vehicle it never ran so hott. however it did have 11.5 to 1 compression.

[Ratmeat]

Just got back from Coos again monday and have to report that we really liked the av gas.

Runs clean and crisp.

Here is some math for ya

Super Unleaded 92 octane $3.35 a gallon at Exxon in Reedsport today

add $1.35 for Av Gas, 100 octane low lead $4.70 a gallon at Salem airport last week. That is 8 octane more for $1.35

add $5.30 for Race gas, 110 octane low lead $10.00 a gallon at DTR racing on Friday. This is 10 octane more then av gas.

Why does gas with an octane rating 8 points higher only cost $1.35 more and race gas with a rating 10 points higher then av gas cost $5.30 more???

I say price gouging! But hey, I aint a chemist so I have no idea what it takes to get a 110 rating over a 100 rating.

I will say this, it don't look right to me!

Long story short, I like the value in the av gas, and the performance was good.

Smells better too, maybe that was the lead?

[RTOYZ]

here is a copy of a letter I received in the club P.O. box today. I just would like to know where we can get this around here or the coast.


-1_ Department of Agriculture
Salem, OR 97301-2532
Theodore R. Kulongoski, Governor
March 17, 2008
To: Aircraft, antique vehicles, all-terrain vehicles, racing activity vehicles, snowmobiles, tools or watercraft owners.
RE: Important Information Regarding Ethanol Blended Gasoline.
To address citizen’s concerns about Oregon’s Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) mandate to blend all gasoline with 10% by volume ethanol, the 2008 Legislature Special Assembly passed Senate Bill (SB) 1079 that provides exceptions to this blending mandate for very specific applications.
A temporary administrative rule has been adopted to immediately implement SB 1079. If you are the owner/user of one of the exemptions and chose to use non-ethanol blended gasoline that meet the specific exceptions provided by SB 1079, this rule affects you.
Renewable Fuel Standard Exceptions
In essence, SB 1079 and this temporary administrative rule allow non-ethanol blended gasoline for the following applications only:
•   Aircraft,   •   Tools including but not limited to lawn
•   Antique vehicles,   mowers, leaf blowers, and chain saws,
•   All-terrain vehicles,   or
•   Racing activity vehicles,   •   Watercraft
•   Snowmobiles,
Refer to SB 1079 for the definitions of these specific cxemptions.
Once this rule goes into effect, it will allow wholesale, retail, and non-retail dealers to sell non-ethanol blended gasoline for the specific exemptions listed. This temporary rule also clarifies labeling requirements for dispensers, storage tanks, and posting of exemption information. Locations are not required to offer a non-ethanol blended fuel, but they now have the ability to make a business decision to provide it based on customer demand.
A complete copy of the temporary administrative rules is available on the ODA Measurement Standards Division web site at http://eszovorcnon.2ov/ODA//MSD
If you have questions regarding this matter, please feel free to contact the ODA Measurement Standards Division at 503-986-4670 or e-mail at ms
Regards,
__ Y
Russ Wyckoff
Administrator
Measurement Standards Division

[Ratmeat]

Cool deal

Still gona use av gas from now on.

Super 92 octane rating
Av gas  100 octane rating

Seem like a better deal then race gas to me. but what do I know?

[YFZ 450 Quadaholic]

Hey everyone; just a little advice regarding AV gas.
If you are mixing 2-stroke oil in with AV gas be aware that not all 2-stroke oils mix (very well) with AV gas.
I suggest getting a glass jar and testing the mixture yourself with various oils and observe the results.
I have experienced problems with some oils in the past separating/not blending well with AV gas as compared to pump gas.
It's been a few years since I did this test myself, so I cannot recall which brands of 2-stroke oil were not compatible.
Food for thought.
-James

[SANDDEMON]

Great post, answers a few new problems lately. I will check the local prices on race gas here in Albany. One supplier of race gas has kept his prices lower than the rest. May be more expensive , but you 'll be riding and not broke down.
Honey I have to ride again before the gas goes bad........................

[Ratmeat]

Well

Been using Av gas for two trips to the dunes and 4 trips to Albany drag racing and have had no problems.

As for the problems mixing it with 2 stroke oil, the guy that told me about the av gas has been running it in his banshee for 5 years now and has also had no problems.

I then asked the guys at the airport about any problems he has heard of running ave gas in bikes and he said " I've been here 30 years and have never ever heard of any problems."

He went on to say that there are a lot of rumors about how av gas has antifreeze in it. He stated that it was BS. Av gas is a purer, higher quality blend of fuel. It has a freezing point of -60 Degrees. I did some research on the av gas and found this document about av gas: http://www.phillips66aviation.com/NR/rdonlyres/B359AA27-A8CC-46D6-B0C9-82D32CA8721A/0/COPAvGas1406.pdf

What I really find interesting is note 814 that states:

The aviation gasoline herein specified shall be free from undissolved water, sediment, and suspended matter. The odor of the fuel shall not be nauseating or irritating. No substances of known dangerous toxicity under usual
conditions of handling and use shall be present except as permitted in the ASTM specification. (ASTM D 910
Section 8.1)

I Have learned a ton more about av gas vs Super unleaded by reading the ASTM standards documents at :

http://www.astm.org/.

If any body has any interest in checking into it feel free.  I know my decision is to not mix race gas and super unleaded any longer. With the ethanol in the automotive fuel now, and the way it absorbs water I just don't think it is good for the bikes.