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More Oregon Sand off limits
« on: October 11, 2009, 01:11:46 PM »

http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2009/10/08/news/doc4ace1e8008983222530161.txt

By Nate Traylor, Staff Writer
Thursday, October 08, 2009 | 8 comment(s)

There will be no more joyriding around the Beal and Snag lakes on the south end of the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area.

Off-road enthusiasts who get a thrill skirting the perimeters of those dune lakes could face a fine of up to $5,000 or six months in jail for disturbing sensitive plant communities. The Siuslaw National Forest is implementing a Forest Closure Order prohibiting all vehicles from riding near the lakes because of the bog blueberry and other sensitive plant species.

The plant is rare on the Oregon Coast and Northern California, according to a press release from the USDA Forest Service, Pacific Northwest Region. Forest Service officials say motorists pose a considerable threat to fragile habitats.

“If it is rare and particularly sensitive, sometimes you have to exclude certain uses,” said Megan Harper, Bureau of Land Management spokeswoman.

BLM oversees a portion of the North Spit where similar restrictions apply. Certain areas there are closed to vehicles from March to September to protect the threatened Western snowy plover.

The Forest Service order also provides protection to a variety of unique species, such as the Western pond turtle, hoary elfin butterfly and bald eagles. Bog clubmoss, adder’s-tongue and the western lily are also protected under the measure.

There was a lengthy public comment period on the matter, but it was more than a decade ago.

Other forest management actions, such as the alcohol ban, have taken priority, prompting the agency to postpone putting the measure into effect.

“We’ve been remiss in not posting these orders for the last 15 years,” said Sharon Stewart, a recreation supervisor for the Central Coast Ranger District/Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area.

The restrictions stem from a 1994 Oregon Dunes Management Plan, the goal of which is to restore plant, fish and wildlife habitats in Management Area 10(F), which also includes Siltcoos, Loon, Carter, Lost, Perkins and Elbow lakes and the Tahkenitch Dunes.

The measure restricts motorists from 300 acres around Beal and 75 acres around Snag.

Horsfall Lake has been restricted for some time.

Signs are posted near the lakes advising motorists not to enter. Though hikers are still welcome.

Richard Burkholder, co-owner Spinreel Dune Buggy and ATV Rental in North Bend, isn’t worried about the restrictions hurting business.

“We’re on the north end (of the dunes) and none of our riders go down that far,” he said. “They’re not allowed.”

Others feel the measure takes that much more sand away from the ATV community.

“They start with a little, then they end up taking a lot,” said Doug Parker, owner of Parker’s ATV & Cycle in North Bend. “Slowly, they cut you off completely.”
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Re: More Oregon Sand off limits
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2009, 07:08:16 PM »

Reminds me of the Spotted Owl debate , and now they want the spotted owl gone because its not a native species. But forget they Destroyed the Oregon Economy shutting down the logging for the owl.
  Are these "Real" native species or "invaders" as the ODFW calls "noxious weeds" infesting parts of Oregon now.
This stuff gets me fired up, I just found out a major chunk of central California is a " Lead Free " zone for hunting game  now.  It's the "Home Range of the California Condor"

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/condor/docs/Ridley-TreeCondorPreservationAct.pdf

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/condor/

Some info on whats going on in Komifornia

I wonder if you fish do you have to use lead free sinkers.HuhHuhHuhHuh

I hope this is not a trend north  of there.

Thanks for the info DJ.
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Re: More Oregon Sand off limits
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009, 08:49:36 PM »

 There trying to shut down fishing now.
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Re: More Oregon Sand off limits
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 11:17:46 AM »

I copied this from another site..............

Just got this email from Greg Hoover of Discovery Point

Hello,

I have retained your e-mail address because you were active or showed interest to help during the process of the Umpqua Lighthouse Master plan.

I have recently been appointed to a 15 member workgroup representing Organized OHV user groups to advise our district ranger how best to implement the designated route portion of the 1994 ODNRA dune management plan. This group is comprised of representatives of Organized OHV user groups, Outfitters/guide businesses, Fish and wildlife advocates, Tribal representatives, State ATV fund representative, Unaffiliated OHV users, Mushroom pickers, Conservation groups, Local community leaders and Unaffiliated general public

You can view it here http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/siuslaw/project ... ndex.shtml

The forest Service has hired a private facilitator and have not provided any ground rules or base. We are on our own.
The open areas are just that open, our focus is on the trails in the forested areas and areas where trails are in the beach grass, some of this grass is classified as invasive.

Our initial meeting was held on Oct. 3rd in Florence and was mostly an introduction meeting. We had a small field trip, one of many, to the Florence dunes.
No decisions were made and none will be made for quite some time, possibly a couple of years. That doesn't mean we should sit idly by and wait to see what happens. One thing I did get out of that first meeting was that public input is wanted and welcome. There were only 3 persons from the general public in attendance at the OCT.3rd meeting.

Our next meeting is November 6th and 7th. Friday the 6th will be a field trip to the middle or Umpqua dunes with a workgroup session Saturday the 7th at the Winchester Bay Community center, the public is welcome both days. If you would like to attend and you stay at Discovery Point your stay will be discounted 50%

Our meetings will probably be every other month with a January meeting planned in Coos Bay

I see a opportunity for them to close yet more of our riding area and with your help, I plan to fight to keep it or at least reopen an acre for ever one that is closed.
Below is a cut and paste of one of the many charts included in the plan


I hope to see you in November.
SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!

If you just don't care and wish to be taken off of this mailing list just hit "reply" and type unsubscribe in the subject line.

Greg Hoover
Discovery Point Resort & RV Park, Winchester Bay Oregon
Dune Country ATV
242 Discovery Point Lane
Reedsport Oregon 97467
97467
(541) 271-3443
http://www.discoverypointresort.com
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Re: More Oregon Sand off limits
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 06:04:47 AM »

Thanks DJ. I will send this out to every one. And i was right, some species are "invasive". We cant let them do this , encourage everyone who can  to attend these meetings and field trips
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Re: More Oregon Sand off limits
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2009, 03:19:57 PM »

Can anybody give us an update on what has taken place since October?  Have a great day and Merry Christmas to all!!
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Re: More Oregon Sand off limits
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 03:33:50 PM »

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Re: More Oregon Sand off limits
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 11:51:22 AM »

Guys - I have heard some input that isn't good - but I don't have enough information to let everyone know just yet.

Jody - is going to get some information out to me as soon as he can - and if what he told me on the phone bares out - well we'll talk about it then.

I will definitely let you know as soon as I hear anything.
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